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THE ORIGINS OF THE FIRST NAMES GIRM AND GERTEN

 

The cyrillic alphabet

 

The Usdin/Alterman 1875 census list one Girm(Гирм) and two Gerten(Гертен)

 

-GIRM YANKELEVICH USDIN (ГИРМ ЯНКЕЛЕВИЧ УЗДИН ) born in 1821 and certainly my Great Grandfather's brother.census

 

-GERTEN LEIBOVICH ALTERMAN (ГЕРТЕН ЛЕЙБОВИЧ АЛТЕРМАН )born in 1817 and certainly my Great Grandmother's Uncle.census

 

-GERTEN KHAIMOVICH ALTERMAN (ГЕРТЕН ХАИМОВИЧ- ШМУЕЛОВИЧ АЛТЕРМАН) born in 1873 and Gerten's Grandson

 

 

I didn't know the origins of the fist names, so I asked the Jewishgen to help on May 5, 2007

 

Here are some answers:

==The Russian alphabet does not have the letter "H" and uses instead
the letter "G." The names used  by these two people would probably
have been  Hirm and Herten.
 
==I looked up both names in Beider's dictionary of first names. I found
neither in the English language index (I didn't check the Russian  because
I have only a limited knowledge of the Russian alphabet).
 
==I've been trying to free-associate to these names. I do not come up with
associations to any name I know in Yiddish, Hebrew, or  German

Michael Bernet


 

More info would help.  Men's names?  Women's names?  Cyrillic G can stand for
'h', so one can read 'Hirm' and/or Herten?  I'd also like to actually
see the Cyrillic.
Date of archives, from where?
Jules Levin

 

In Russian script, it is often difficult to distinguish m,
t, and sh written by scribes who were not too careful.  I suspect the
names are Girsh and Gershen.(That's what I thought but I wanted to be sure)


Bert

 

Actually a Cyrillic T looks like an M, so Gerten could be Herman and
Girm could be Herm - which would work out fine if Gerten and Girm were
the same person, Herman.

Sally Bruckheimer

 

 

 

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