Beines in yiddish
Subject: name origins
From: "christine usdin" <christineusd@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:21:35 +0100
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Dear all,
My great grandfather's given name was Beines,also spelled Benis,Beines or Benes.
I never meet with this first name in the jewishgen,yad vashem and so on.
What are the origins of this name?
Is it a yiddish given name?
What is the equivalent hebrew name?
Sincerely .
Christine Usdin, France
Dear Christine,
I don't think this was a common name.
My great great grandfather was Binyamin Beynes Friedland from Vidzy which is now in Belarus but had been part of Kovno Gubernia. He would have been born around 1830. I'd be curious to know if your great grandfather came from the same area.
I did find this name in the JewishGen Given Names database below.
I have his name from the Hebrew on my great grandfather's tombstone. As I read it, his name was "Meir Zalmon ben Benyamin Baynush Friedland".. To the world he was Solomon Friedland from Philadelphia. I've inserted of photo of his tombstone below.
In my gg grandfather's case it appears to be associated with Benjamin, his Hebrew name. My great grandfather's death certificate listed his father's name only as 'Benes' which must have been his common Yiddish name.
If you learn anything more about the name 'Benes' from your posting on JewishGen I'd be greatful if you might let me know.
Jeff Malet
Minneapolis MN
USA
and also:
IDENTIFICATION OF GIVEN NAMES
contributed y Prof.G.L EstersonRa'anana,Israel
As Martha indicated in her response to Eric Ben-jaminson's question, Dr. Beider does indeed de-rive the name group Beynish from the root nameBenedikt. In his introductory discussion of thesenames, he does mention in passing that Benesh“was used as a Kinnui for the Biblical Benjamin,”but he does not follow up on this observation. Onthe other hand, my own reply to Eric's questionemphasized this connection between Benesh. and Binyamin as being primarily from the fact thatBenesh was a kinui for the Hebrew nameBinyamin, as defined by the rabbis. For a manhaving both of these names, his legal name foruse in a Get became Binyamin hamechuneBenesh.These differences in interpretation come about because Dr. Beider and I take different ap-proaches to linking Jewish names to one another.His approach is based on setting up theoreticalhypotheses of how names developed over time and he used phonetic transitions between names to develop his hypotheses. Other researchers havealso adopted this. My approach is based on the use of the Jewishlaw books of Hilchot Gitin written by prominentrabbis of previous centuries. These rabbis' books were intended as guidebooks for divorce rabbis touse in writing legal Jewish Gitin (divorce docu-ments). This was and is an important documentfor divorcing men and women, because if thedocument was later declared to be invalid for anyreason, the children of post-divorce re-marriages would have a very undesirable status under Jew-ish law, and the rabbis wanted to prevent thisfrom happening.The rabbis' approach to developing their Jewishname groupings was basically empirical. Theycollected the Jewish and secular names used bymen and women involved in divorces, recorded them, analyzed them in a quasi-statistical way,and then grouped them based on these field data; the results of this process then became Jewish
Such empirical data do not always agreewith the schemes developed using hypothetical/theoretical ideas, but they do have the advantagesof being in accord with the name groupings thatpeople actually had in previous centuries inEurope, and of being in accord with Jewish law.Anne Brest of South Africa posted the following:“My ex father in law's name was Baines NaphtaliBREST. The Hebrew spelling was Bet, Nun, Vav,Sin (shin). Sometimes I heard my mother-in-lawtalking about him as “Bainash” but mostly Baines with the “s” sound. He came from Bauska, Latvia and I never knew the origin of hisname. I see now that it is Binyamim.”There were many variant pronunciations of thesenames. Still, the rabbis distinguished that thosenames (like Beynish), which were to be used askinuim, were kinuim only for Binyamin, not forany other Hebrew names. So, the likelihood isthat Binyamin was the Hebrew name linked toher ex father in law's Yiddish name. However,there were some cases where Yiddish names likethis were given as accompaniments to other He-brew names, or just as additional names used bysome people. This did happen.
and.....
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Legal/Hebrew: Binyamin BEYNESh\Beynush Gender: M Legal Origin: Genesis 35:18
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Yiddish: Benyamen / Benyamin / Benyomin / Benyumin / Binyomin / Venyamin
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Yiddish Nickname: Binka / Binya / Buna / Yumi / / Baynus / Bena / Benes / Beni / Benish / Beynash / Beyne / BEYNES / BEYNESh / BEYNEShke / Beynis / Beynish / Beynus / Beynush / Bina / Binash / Bine / Binesh / Binis / Binush / Bunesh
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US Name: Benjamin
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Legal/Hebrew: Beynish Gender: M
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Yiddish: Bejnash / Bejnes / Beynas / BEYNES / Beynis / Beynish / Beynus / Beynush / Binesh / Binush
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Yiddish Nickname: Beyne / BEYNEShke / Beynushl / Beynushke / Bina / Binis / Bune
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European Secular: Benes / Benyas
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Legal/Hebrew: Barukh Bendit Gender: M Legal Origin: Jeremiah 32:12
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Yiddish: Borukh / / Bendet / Bendit
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Yiddish Origin: <French Bendit, Latin Benedict
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Yiddish Nickname: Berl / Borushek / / Bender / Bendetl / Bendik / Benya / Benish / BEYNESh / Beynis / Beynish / Beynus / Beynyash
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European Secular: Boris / Berkov
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US Name: Barney
It is rare, at least in north-central Ukraine. Of the 15,000
names that appear in the Nezhin birth records 1860-1879, only 2 Beines
appear.
Bert
According to "A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names", Beines is a variant
of Bendit which has its origins in the Christian name Benedictus (blessed).
The Hebrew equivalent would be Boruch (blessed). I had a granduncle named
Beines.
My references suggest that Beines or Benis is a version of Bendit
(Benedict) which is Latin for blessed and is a kinnui for Baruch. Your
great grandfather's Hebrew given name is probably Baruch.